Complete Privacy & Security Podcast E017

Complete Privacy & Security Podcast

The Complete Privacy & Security Podcast

Episode 017: Andy Yen of ProtonMail

This week we sit down with ProtonMail CEO Andy Yen to discuss secure email communications.

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2 thoughts on “Complete Privacy & Security Podcast E017”

  1. > SearX : Thank you for letting us know about this. At last a search engine for adults, which is adjustable and has sensible controls in sensible places. Using SearX, one realises how much the Google interface is a religious creed and not based on logical decisions : nothing on the home page, because, you know, it’s “better”. Why ? Nobody knows. Emptiness is supposed to be good. As a result, finding controls is a game of hide and seek. There are some very basic controls in Google I need all the time, whose existence I discovered only days ago, purely by chance.

    > Proton. Isn’t that turning into a religious creed as well ? It’s a good thing we have a Google of encrypted mail, if only to encourage others to provide this service and yet others to use it. However, Andy Yen said this in his interview, and nobody seems to care : we have already surrendered metadata to the police. He didn’t say explicitely “the police”, but that’s what it means. Metadata is as good as content. Metadata is what law enforcement and intelligence agencies use to track bad guys. It’s extraordinarily revealing. Good guys can fall because of it.

    Tutanota encrypts metadata. You can open a Tutanota account through Tor, and stay completely anonymous to Tutanota. You can’t do this with Proton. Not even with their recently opened onion address. Accessing Proton from a Tor node will most likely flag you as a potential spammer, and you will be asked to provide a phone number for SMS confirmation, an alternate email address or buy a paid-for account, all of which destroy your anonymity. Proton has repeatedly been probed about this, but has never provided a solution.

    Tutanota is smaller than Proton, it has less features and it lacks that CERN and Swiss image. The Swiss image of privacy is largely a fantasy, however. Look at how quickly Switzerland completely surrendered its banking secrecy, which used to have quasi-religious status, when bullied by the United States. Poof ! went that fundamental law of the land, which the Swiss has been telling us for decades how Swissness was inconceivable without it. What do you think of Tutanota ?

    > Sudo, Not usable outside of the United States, as far as I can understand. Definitely the case for the latter. Sudo can provide disposable Canadian and British phone numbers which then may be used all over the world, but they don’t say if you need to be a Canadian or British resident to take advantage of this (it is most probably the case). Sudo Pay is most probably US-only, maybe Canadian also.

    I have yet to find solutions for disposable phone and credit card numbers available outside of America. Which is surprising, given the level of government surveillance going on in the United States.

    1. According to Tutanota’s knowledge base they have access to/do not encrypt sender, recipient, or date of email (metadata).
      Have you tried Sudo? It will let you set up U.S., British, Canadian, and German phone numbers, from a U.S. phone.

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